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It seems for some people there are psychological issues with their weight loss.

I suppose on refection I didn’t have the textbook happy childhood how this may effect me is complicated.

Logically if the real problem is of a psychological nature it seems unlikely that a long term cure will be found in a diet book.

Clearly this is an issue that I need to reflect on.

I am posing this so perhaps others may reflect on if it is necessary to deal with issues in ones past to ensure long term future success.

There is usually some form of psychological issues related to weight loss. It takes self confidence to really see things through tough times, some people can do that right away but most have to work at it and the confidence comes over time.

Ray

Maybe not so much deal with the ISSUES, but deal with the way we have allowed them to affect us now?

It is very complex, Don. I am sure I have dealt with my past in some very negative ways, and the fact noone in my lif3e back then was aware of what was going on, and thus could not help me learn more constructive ways to deal, really sucks! But nowadays *I* am aware, and I have to find more constructive ways to deal! not so easy to do. 

I am trying to surround myself by strong people, the type who I can see choosing healthy, wise ways to live life and cope with pressures, but that in itself is really hard, as so many of my friends are similar to me. It has obviously been far easier to move with other people who make my old ways easy to continue. Does that make sense? Trying to balance between the old and the new is hard, i LOVE these people yet I can see they are not helping me, which is definitely not a conscious thing on their behalf, but that does not make it any less of a problem. 

Tough subject, Don.  I wasn't abused per se, but I did have a conflict riddled teenager-hood.  Perhaps my exceptionally hard-to-please mother is the cause of my self-worth and inadequacy issues.  You know, just the other day I was trying hard to think of one compliment she paid me in my life, and I just couldn't think of a thing!  No encouragement at all that I can think of.   At least my Dad and sister were forthcoming in that department, and I've made sure my kids hear the good as well as the bad.

I hear what Ray is saying, if there's self-confidence issues from an early part of life, one way to beat through it is to overcome adverse conditions and be at the end of the truly tough task, reflecting, "Look at that!  I accomplished that, Me and no-one else."  Everytime I gain a win like that, I get a new building block for my confidence - it empowers me to get on with achieving more things and leaving behind the doubts and insecurities of the past. 

I think that's why contestants are driven to the emotional brink so that they can survive through it and know that they are still a whole person.  I'll bet tough experiences in their past has taken a large personal toll on their state of mind and left them scared of tackling the hard stuff or moving out of 'the safe, controlled space' that they create for their own physical and emotional safety.

I must admit while I originally did a woman’s studies topic at uni more as a dare.

There was some very interesting issues raised.

One of them is the varying forms of abuse and how subtle they can be.

What methods of control and manipulation are acceptable?

Is any method of control and manipulation acceptable?

I will suggest this is a very grey area and seems to depend on a lot of things.

And yes some of the women in the topic were more masculine than me.

I must admit seeing Michelle’s mum on the BLA about the $50,000.00 I must admit I thought her mum was portrayed as abusive.

But in all fairness the piece on TV was probably only a portion of their time together and may have been edited in a biased way.

Mind you my thoughts on that are that her chance of wining are modest and $50,000.00 would buy a lot of help with weight loss and possibly leave some change!

How would you feel if you stayed on and lasted less than another three weeks?

I've found this topic most interesting

Whatever are the reasons why someone eats too much , the fact is that the weight loss only can be achieved by eating right foods, drinking water and

making exercise or at least moving as much as possible.

So, the keys for succes in our lives are in our hands.

I had never heard of the idea that gaining wieght and holding onto it was self aubse until 6 months ago when Oprah (I love Oprah) was doing a show on those bypasses in your stomach to make it a size of a walnut so you could not physically eat too much. Out of (I cannot remember the numbers) a fair few women most resorted to other forms of self abuse, Oprah was interveiwing a number of ladies and aome turned into alcoholics others into sex maniacs with randoms. These were normal women with childrenand husbands that Oprah was showing to, going out and drinking every night.

 Why the self abuse I am not sure each person would be different, I suppose confidence-a lck of it would be a part of it.

 Then just a month ago I met a man who was really into health and well being in many ways, he was amazing to talk to, He was a fit man and he told me that he recently lost a LOT of wieght and now he is trying to help his wife. This subject came up and he really beieved it was a major key for mentally allowing himself to do the exercise and to stick to the diet. He also knew a person who did the bypass surgery and he said because they hadn't tried to help themselves mentally and emotionally they too resorted to abuse. This particular person learnt that they could melt chocolate in their mouth and they would do that continually to retain the weight.